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³¼INTERVIEW WITH¼³
³¼R.W.O/KEFRENS¼³
¹
This time we have caught one of the
best graphicians around, R.W.O of
Kefrens. So let's jump right out in
this revealing interview !
²Hi R.W.O, even though most of the
readers probably know you, we would
like you to introduce yourself and tell
us about your scenelife so far.¹
Well, my real name is Rene' Wester
Olsen. I'm almost 18 years old, and I'm
a graphics-artist in Kefrens. I got my
machine back in 1988, and before that,
I was the lucky (?) owner of a C-64. I
began to draw computer-graphics when I
bought my Amiga, and after about 2
months, I joined Bamiga Sector One
together with S.L.L. After about 9
months, we both joined Kefrens. Later
Kefrens died, and we built Hydronic.
But after a few months, we rebuilt the
forces of the pyramids, because
Metallion, Razmo and Mellica was among
us. Then the real Kefrens was born to
last forever......
²Thanks ! Kefrens has just released a
big demo, Guardian Dragon II, which won
the competition at the Hurricane party.
Now that you look back on the demo
could you tell us your impression of
it ( The best/worst parts and what you
think could have been better etc.) ?¹
My own favourite parts are something
like: The lightsourced megaball, the
exploding vectorcube and the Dragon-eye
part. The worst parts..... Hmm..None
ofcoz!!! Ok, when you have read the
story in the introducing once, it's
rather boring to read it again and
again, everytime you watch the demo. I
must admit, that I'm not a big fan of
the about 500.000 dots-joke either.
Another funny thing is, that somehow
some people doesn't know, that this
part was a joke, and really believe in
the about 500.000 realtime dots!!!
²Guardian Dragon II has in my opinion an
excellent design. Could you please
compare your kind of design with some
other strong ' design-groups ' like
Andromeda, Silents and Melon Dezign and
how important will you rate the design
against code & music (graphics) ?¹
I guess you can compare our design a
bit like Andromeda's; Every part has an
' introduction' ( hmm.. almost). The
routines doesn't just 'pop' up in a
row, like Silents' Hardwired. Of course
Silents' design isn't bad at all. I
just think that 'part-introductions'
will make the demo more smooth and
pleasant to watch.
²It was a quite impressing demo . Do you
think that it will help you getting
more accepted in the scene, cause you
have to admit that some people didn't
think you deserved the name; Kefrens !¹
Well, the problem was that when we just
rebuilt Kefrens, we had 100% friendship
and quantity before quality. The time
has changed, and now we try to make
quality before quantity. The friendship
is still (always will be) very, very
high rated in Kefrens, which makes the
group better, closer and more
powerfull.
²Why do you think that people in the
first place had a hard time accepting
your group after it was reborn ?¹
Difficult to say... Maybe it has
something to do with the 'Promax-
fever'. Kefrens was well known for
Promax's and Metallion's superb coding.
At that moment we couldn't deal with
that high coding standard, so we had to
'live' on anything but coding, which
was quite unreal for Kefrens. Anyway,
I'm quite sure, that our 'coding-
problems' are history.
²And do you think that Kefrens nowadays
are a just as strong team as it was a
couple of years ago ?¹
YES!!!! And even stronger....
²I know that you have had some troubles
getting your prize for your 1st place.
How are things going concerning this
matter ?¹
Yes, just before the winners should be
done official, Brian Harfeldt ( main
organizer) came to our place, and told
us that we had won the demo-competition
for sure, but he was terrible sorry,
that he couldn't pay us ANY-THING
because of a huge loss (approx 100000
Dkr.). Well, we got quite shocked and
pissed, but we ( Laxity and me)
discussed it, and we felt sorry for
him. Dissapointed we took the bus to
the ferry, to travel home from a hard
week-end. 2 days later, I got many
calls from some of my friends. After we
left, some other guys got very angry,
and sat down in the hall until they was
paid. Afterall one of the other
organizers admitted to me, that their
loss wasn't that big at all!!!! In fact
they had 7500 Dkr all in all for the
winners. Some guys yelled very loud,
and they got some money. The winners
from the music-comp. got some of the
leftovers (cokes ect.) for their work.
Well, after the party (?) Brian Harfeld
called me, and told that we would get
either 15000 Dkr. or the Amiga 3000 for
sure, because he has checked the
economy, and their loss wasn't that
much. Great! 2 months after, and we
never heard anything. Then we sent a
letter, that we wanted our money. Later
on we got a letter from his lawyer
saying, that we would get nothing for
our hard work. The main organizers had
expected 2700 people, and instead
'only' 00 showed up ( I wonder where
the entrance money is???). His excuse
was, that the organizers didn't know
that Denmark should play football
against Germany (Ey, 2-0 rulez!!), and
therefore they didn't had a change to
cancel it!!! We wrote back, and
mentioned 10-20 good reasons to this
matter. He couldn't defend our facts
coz he wasn't present at the party. He
just wrote that he had nothing more to
say, than he already had said. And the
moral: Never choose a lawyer, who can't
defend his sake ( Like: Jaeger &
Rambusch/Niels Junge - Kirkegade 1
6701 Esbjerg!!!).
²You have some problems with Melon
Dezign. Do you have any comments to
this matter ?¹
Well, yes there have been some bugs. It
all began at the Aars '91 party. Under
the demo-comp. our dentro suddenly went
into a software-failure. Laxity said,
that it couldn't break down during the
textplotter. Some weeks after, Trix of
Anarchy admitted to Krueger, that Seen
and Paleface wanted the vectors to
crash; simply by playing with the
level-7 button. They choosed the mem
on/off button instead, and the demo
began to freeze for some seconds, and
went into a guru-meditation. We got
very pissed, and told, in an intro,
that we didn't like them either. After
we won the comp. with G.D.2, they got
more angry. They got the 5th place, and
that was absolutely unfair (nahh..).
Then they made a nice anti-intro for us
(Thanx again!). Anyway, just after we
rebuilt Kefrens, I heard rumours about,
that Seen and two of the former Kefrens
members wanted to rebuilt the group,
but we did it before them, and this
could be the reason why he wanted to
ruin our dentro. I'm not 100% sure of
the last (99%), but I wouldn't be
surprised!!
²Could you reveal some of the new
projects coming from Kefrens in the
future. I know that you should have
released a slideshow called
'Masterpieces'. But I haven't seen it
yet ! What have happened ?¹
Huh! Yeah, Masterpieces was a bit
delayed. Mellica and I got ourselves
new jobs, which take much time. That's
the only reason, why the slideshow was
delayed for a month (or 2!?). Anyway,
when the time you read this, it is
already released (Hope so! ed)... Well,
our next release is very close. It's
some 'guf' for all you techno-freaks
out there. S.L.L has done a new
Multimegamix-alike, with only power-
techno muzak.... Razmo is currently
working on the follow-up to S.L.L's
megamix. Hawkeye's 'Hardware Heaven' is
also 'close to the stairs'. It's a
hardware-mag. only to be released once.
It contains a lot of cool and helpfull
hardware tips & tricks, so all you
electrician lovers: Watch out!
Furthermore Vention and Zeus are
currently working on a trackmo to be
released around x-mas.
²Talking about graphics..As a graphician
you can't avoid questions about
graphics, so let's jump right out, in
the questionstorm. So, please tell us a
bit about your style and your favourite
motives/area ?¹
My favourite area is drawing pictures.
Charsets are really my worst nightmare.
I really hate drawing those boring
letters!! I use the 'chess flour'
style; setting every second pixel, to
make it smooth and greasy. My favorite
motives are ( as you probably already
know!?) monsters in all variations.
Anyway, in the past few months, I've
drawn some human beings too. That is
probably some of the hardest motives to
draw. If you draw a fantasy picture,
you can't say that something is wrong;
but everyone knows how a person looks
like (hmm... really???), and then it's
very easy to discover, if something is
wrong.
²A lot of people are saying that you use
a digitizer (As they say about any cool
graphicians). Have you ever done
pictures with that help, and what do
you think about these 'rumours' in
general ?¹
Well, the rumours are many! I've heard
that Facet uses digitizer too, and Uno
bought all his graphics from Bitmap
Brothers! I don't fucking believe in
these rumours! I've NEVER done any
pictures with 'help' from a digitizer
either. In fact I'm not even sure how
to use a digitizer!!! I think those
rumour-lovers should think twice before
spreading shit-talk like that. Maybe
it's just a matter of lack of
intelligence, or just some jaloux
jerks, who think it is impossible to do
something better than they can do
themselves!
²I think that you make some really cool
graphics. But one time I have been very
dissapointed (But then again, only one
time !). I'm talking about the first
picture in Guardian Dragon. What do you
think about that picture yourself and
have you regret that you included it ?¹
Ha, ha... Funny you ask! I've regret I
included this VERY old picture in
Guardian Dragon many times! In fact it
was more than 3 years old, when it was
used. The reason for this was, that
Laxity and I were sitting just the day
before the party, with no loaderpicture
at all. Well, we thought that it was
better looking at something, instead of
looking at an 'empty' screen (As I
regret later!!), so then we used it!!!
²Does the graphicians-chart in the
eurochart fit your feelings about who
is the best graphicians around ?¹
It's very difficult to say who really
is the best graphics-artist i n the
Amiga-scene. Most of the graphicians in
the Eurochart have done something good,
but also something very bad. It all
depends on how much time you spend on
the graphics. If you spend plenty of
time on every picture you do, they are
all great then, but then you wouldn't
have time to release much. Ok, you can
also use too much time on a picture,
which means you will get tired of the
picture before finishing it, and then
the rest of it is more or less
rushwork. Some of the very active
graphicians in the Eurochart release
many pictures, but they are all very
simple. Then again; You can't really
say, who is the true number one.
²Please comment on the following
grahicians:¹
³Angeldawn/Scoopex:¹
I haven't seen any pictures from
Angeldawn, but most of his logos and
charzz are really brilliant!!!
³Fairfax/Andromeda:¹
The med-rez king! Long time ago I saw
some Awesome-logos from him, which I
certainly didn't like. Some time after,
I saw the Titanic-in-the-moutains
picture, and it was really cool (keep
it on dude!).
³Rack/Majic 12:¹
Rack has done some very good menus and
a few good pictures. One thing is for
sure, that his smoothings are very
good. It's just a shame that his
graphics are too alike. He should try
to use less than 16 colors on a
'thing', and draw something else on the
picture in other colors.
³Cougar/Sanity:¹
Cougar is a very talented graphics-
artist. I haven't seen much from him,
but what I've seen was really stunning.
Well, maybe except for some of his
fonts. They were not bad, but his
pictures was/are in a lot better
quality.
³Hof/Silents:¹
Huh!!! It looks like Hof really got a
bright future drawing Amiga-graphics.
His picture in Stolen Data was really
kickin. The smooth, the palette and the
motive are really stunning. I'm really
looking forward to see more from him in
the near future (Keep it on Hof!!!).
³Walt/Melon Dezign:¹
The graphics in ICE was quite good, but
some of the graphics in Humantarget was
certainly under the standard! When I
first saw it, I thought it was made by
Seen! Anyway Walt: Pleaze go back to
your old style. It was a lot better!
³Bustman/Crusaders:¹
Hmm.. The man with his very own style!!
I must first admit, that I'm not a fan
of his style. Anyway, that doesn't mean
that he can't draw, coz he can. The
best I've seen from him, was the
smoking ballon-head used in one of
Crusaders' last charts.
²It seems like Uno of Scoopex and
Facet/Anarchy are the two most popular
graphicians around at the moment.
Could you please give us your
impression, their skills and why you
prefer Uno's graphics or Facet's
graphics ?¹
I dunno!!! It's hard to say who is
best of Uno and Facet. Uno haven't
drawn much graphics, but almost all of
it are quality. Facet has drawn a lot
of pictures lately ( mostly very
simple!) I don't really know whose gfx
I prefer. One thing is for sure: They
are both very talented, and it's hard
to say who is best.
²Ok, as always, the man in question-fire
gets the final words !¹
0hhh.. Hva for noe???? Ild??? Ok, thanx
TFG! Once again some lamers claimed to
be members of Kefrens, so here are the
updated list:
Airwalk (Graphics & music)
Blizzart (Graphics)
Dice (Musician)
Hawkeye (Mailtrader)
Laxity (Coder & musician)
Mellica (Coder)
Princip (Sysop, Interchange)
Raxor (Sysop, Pyramid Inn)
Razmo (Music, gfx & coding)
R.W.O (Graphics)
S.L.L (Musician)
Vention (Coder)
Zeus (Coder, modemtrader)
Anyone else who claims to be a Kefrens
member is rather misinformed, or just
plain stupid!!!!
On the behalf of the Top Secret staff,
I'll thank R.W.O for answering these
questions.
³TFG/Majic 12¹